Thursday, April 26, 2007

Who do you call what?

My how things have changed over the years. I know when I was a child that I called EVERY adult I met either Mr & Mrs or Aunt & Uncle. There was NEVER calling an adult by their first name - ever.

These days things have changed - in some ways. Doctors are still referred to by their title, and teachers are generally called Mr or Mrs. Sometimes the elderly or heads of companies are referred to by title. I would say that usually the Queen, Prime Ministers and Presidents also use a title when spoken to by adults or children. But us old regular adult folk are referred to by kids by our first names.

Now I am not a parent yet - however, I always stated that I wanted my children to show respect to adults by addressing them by their title. I say this now and I don't know how things are going to pan out when I am in that situation, but my mindset right now is that I want my children to address adults like that. Mark and I are in agreement on this topic also (thank goodness).

Children will call adults whatever you tell them to call them. If you refer to a person as Mr or Mrs or Aunt and Uncle, the kids will call them that. They don't know any different. Just like in high school when you were introduced/met a "Smitty" or a "Rocky" that would be what you called them because that is what they were introduced to you as. Sometimes you would even forget that they have a 'real' name.

Kids (and adults) don't have a problem referring to their child's teacher by their title because that is what everyone was introduced to each other as. Adults even still refer to their doctors and dentists by the letters after their name. Children just follow suit.

I also think that adults feel awkward referring to other adults with their titles and thus they don't do it. The children will then follow suit and call other adults the same name that their parents do.

Again, I say this now, but things might change when the time comes. It will be weird to refer to my friends by Mr & Mrs but I think it is important. But then again, I wouldn't call them that when I was speaking to them face to face. Kids are SMART they know the difference of what they should call someone and what someone else calls someone.

As a mom, they know that they call you mom but that Dad calls you by your first name. They know you are the same person. They figure things out pretty quick.

On another note, I would hope that other adults respect my wish for my children to call them by their title. I don't want the adult to say "oh they can call me Melissa". If that happens, I am not quite sure how I am going to address that yet - but let's just take one step at a time.

I think society is becoming so much more lax then it ever has been, and in some ways that is good, but in other ways with simple respect, I feel it has gone too far in the other direction. I believe that it is important to do the little things that you can to teach your children. They learn so much from and you and they most certainly learn how to treat other people by the cues they observe in their home and in public from their parents.

I am sure there are MANY points of view on this topic - so there you have it - MY view.

29 comments:

C's Mom said...

I still laugh about when I was married many moons ago and sitting in a waiting room. I was called by Mrs (married name). I never budged. I had no idea who they were talking to. Think I got married a little young and didn't want to check my identity at that door?

I admit it. I would be one of the "just call me (first name)' people. Sorry about that...we mean no harm.

C's Mom said...

...by the way, I was raised addressing adults as Mr. & Mrs. It was just how it was. I would have never dreamed of calling an adult by their first name. Hmmm - maybe I just don't see myself as an adult quite yet ;0)

Catherine said...

Great topic! I was at a friend's place last night and we were talking about this exact subject. She's going to be the one who watches Hannah for me when I go back to work and I asked her what the kids call her. She said .... and it was her first name. I have no problem with that as I have my piano students call me Catherine. Miss ___ just sounds...old!

To kids of my close friends I'm Auntie Cathy.

Also, a friend who moved up from the southern states a few years ago has her daughter call me Miss Catherine and I love it! Respectful and youthful (ha!) all at the same time.

Looking forward to hearing what others have to say on this interesting topic.

Middle-Aged Moi said...

I AM WITH YOU! I always make my kids do the Mrs. or Mr. thing. Close friends they called "Aunt" or "Uncle". It's just respect,and I think it's important. I was SO shocked when our little neighbour girl (who was FOUR) called me Janet. My kids just stared at her, like, "oh, now you're gonna hear about it..." I didn't know what to say, so I didn't say anything. Besides, I think it helps kids to recognize authority. Something that's missing today. Better get off the 'ole soapbox now.....:-)

Polar Bear said...

We always addressed adults as Mr. & Mrs. Even today I still refer to them as Mrs.???

It is quite strange to me when the neighbor kids yell out, "Hi Stacy" Then again, I am used to being called Mrs. R at school so I always thought that was part of it.

I will have Tori address our neighbors with Mr. and Mrs. I think it is important that children learn that. It is amazing how many students don't respect adults any more. Maybe this is one way to teach that.

Sugar Cookies And Hope said...

I completely agree with you, Michelle. It's actually getting a little scary to see how much we are alike. :)
I like the formality of the Mr. and Ms. and will be teacher our child(ren) to respect the title. As a matter of fact, Joel and I have been married for almost 11 years and he still calls my parents Mr. and Mrs. V. When K. arrives, he will change that to Grampa and Gramma.

crazylady said...

Do you live with us? Your post is our family mantra. Everyone is Mr. Bob or Mrs. Senja. I try to stick to true to showing respect for elders. I must admit, it's not the kids that have the problem, it's ADULTS. Calling them Mr. or Mrs makes them uncomfortable, despite the fact we use their first name instead of their surname. So if you can get over that, you'll be laughing. Though people expect 'wierd' stuff like that coming from us. Also, we don't call everyone aunt and uncle. That is reserved as an honour for their true aunts and uncles. I think kids must learn that elders are to respected. Maybe I'm native? My name would be Big Babbling Mouth. LOL.
Sen :o)

4D said...

Check me in on that formality train! Having been called Mrs Clark is weird but I can see the importance. I still call people from our church Mr and Mrs. I have known them for YEARS but that who they are to me.

Keep smilin!

4D said...

P.S. I love being called Auntie though!

redmaryjanes said...

My children address people as Miss Sally or Mister Dan. However, people commonly put up a stink and say that it makes them uncomfortable and they want to be addressed by their first names. It's hard too when people have their children call you by first name. It's a tough thing to enforce, but I think that it is important.

Anonymous said...

I read your post just after being called Mam by a student. I hate Mam. It makes me feel old.

I think there are very good reasons to call an adult by a more formal title. It absolutely reinforces respect to the adult in question. It gets tricky these days with folks who are not married but live together (therefore not Mrs.), folks like myself who are docs (Hi kids, this is Dr. Martin and Dr. Martin. Guess which one is which!)

The only one I have a problem with is the aunt and uncle title being used for people that are not related. I know it is a kind title but I think it can be confusing for children. And it infers a false sense of closeness to a child who might not feel that close to the said individual.

I am rambing.

Laurie said...

We were having Sophie say Auntie or Uncle but then realized that she was getting tons of Auntie's and Uncles.....a bit confusing for her. I prefer the formal approach but we do have some close friends that Sophie calls by first names. One day she called me Laurie after she heard Daddy call me. That was way too weird and I didn't like it at all! I waited a long time to be called Mommy and I'm not getting rid of that title :o)

Anne Marie said...

Yes, Yes, Yes. Everyone else has already said what I would say before me. I still call my friends' parents Mr. and Mrs.

This is slightly off-topic but one thing that bothers me is that my doctors who are my generation call me by my first name, but I still call them by their title. I'm not sure why they should hold the upper hand in that relationship!

Anonymous said...

We had the same discussion before dd was born, and agreed with you. We were both brought up using titles.

But it is HARD. Many adults will simply not allow themselves to be called Mr or Mrs or Miss anymore. They will make quite a fuss sometimes if a child tries to use a title (BTDT).

I had one older lady tell my 3yo she was not a Miss but a Mrs and dd should call her C anyway.
Talk about confusing a kid, dd had actually said Mrs but the person in question mis-heard her.


Beth
LID 4/19/06

Brandi said...

I agree...great topic!

When my girls were little, my husband and I taught them to call adults by Mr. or Mrs. ???? I was also met with the "Please, call me (first name)" I adjusted my rule to have my girls call them by Mr. (first name) or Mrs. (first name). Unfortunately, most people nowadays WANT to be called by their first name. I think it really makes them uncomfortable to be called by their title + last name (I know it does for me...I'm another one of those who says, "Please, call me Brandi") All of the girls friends insist upon being called by their first names. I've now become more lax and respect the person's wishes for what they want to be called. They still call people they just met by their titles (and of course doctors, teachers, etc...), but those whom they've known for awhile usually insist upon being called by their first names.

Mommy Spice said...

I have friends who taught their daughter use Mr. and Mrs. for everyone. We have S.G. call friends, for example, Ms. Jenni or Mr. Mark.

I have known my mother-in-law for 18 years now. I called her Mrs. for so long, that it is so hard for me to call her by her first name. She waited 10 years to ask me to call her by her first name, and my skin crawls every time I do it.

D & S said...

Great post! In Spain, everyone there referred to my mom as Senora which is the equivalent of Mrs. followed by her first name. Even the families we've met here from Latin America called her that. That is how I always referred to my mom's friends as well.

Michelle said...

I wasn't raised using titles, and hardly ever hear it, but I am training my children to do this. It is refreshing when you see children who are taught to be more respectful these days.

waitingformaddie said...

I am with you. When I was a kid it was Mr and Mrs everyone. Hubby and I will be having Maddie call people we know (good friends) Miss Laura and Mr Matt etc etc and people we just meet or do not know well by Mr and Mrs.(insert last name)

I have friends that do this and it is grea to see!

Jill and Jaap said...

I was raised addressing by titles, and I like Adriana to do it too, but what do I do when her aunt WANTS to be only called by a first name, but I want her to use the title...argh....drives me crazy.
I just smile to myself and address her by it anyway. :)

Calico Sky said...

I like your view!

I was chatting to an American lady today with her 2 yr old and the little girl said 'who is this mommy' and she said 'this is miss Kate' and I thought....oh that's nice, you never hear that anymore!
I also like ma'am and sir!

Anonymous said...

I agree that our culture would benefit a lot from children being taught to show more respect to adults and authority figures.

But, I also agree with the ones who commented that they were uncomfortable being addressed so formally. Our children call folks "Miss" or "Mister" First Name. And "Miss Monica" doesn't make me feel as old as "Mrs. C" does!

Bless your hearts...I think it will be an uphill battle, but one well worth going for!

dawn said...

This is a tough one. I always thought as we waited for Lily that the Mr and Mrs tiles were the way to go but they just don't work with all my friends. I DO NOT like people deciding themselves that they will Auntie and Uncles, I have fabby siblings who have earned those titles.
For some of my friends parents whom I still call Mr and Mrs, Lily does too and also some of clients who are older she refers to them that way but for the most part it is a first name basis thing.
Oh well some battles you just gotta lose!

The Carmodys said...

I love this post - I'm totally with you on the whole respect thing. My kids call our close friends Aunt and Uncle and then our other friends are "Mrs. Susan and Mr. Bob", etc. Because they hear us calling them by their first names and have no idea usually what their last names even are. It's easier to just put the Mr. and Mrs. in front of the first name and then you still have the respect aspect. Just my opinion. :)

k

Tao's Mommy said...

eeeks!!! I missed that stage of where we called people Mr or Mrs....but one of my older friends always called my parents like that. I used to get so made at her and tell her to call them by there name....LOL!!!!
Not sure how I will have Channing call people.....we will see!!!

kitchu said...

I'm so glad you brought this topic up, and I'm totally on the same page. I think by addressing adults by their first names,it perpetuates this illusion of equality- and I'm sorry, but children are not equal to their elders/parents,etc. I plan to have my kids call close friends "Auntie" so and so "Uncle" so and so (hi Auntie Connie!) and all other adults by Mrs/Mr/Miss- it was how I was raised, and I think our society in particular has lost this sense of respect as you say.

t~ said...

I was not raised by addressing folks with Mr. and Mrs. but my kids have to do it and I just think it sounds better. Anybody that is out of high school is to be addressed with a Mr. and Mrs._____. The hubs and myself totally agree on this and it has never been an issue. When close friends tell them that they can just call them by their first name, I chime in with a no thank you. Works just fine for us.

THE DAVENPORT FAMILY said...

what a topic...we have discussed this many times...however i feel really strange being adressed as Mrs. Davenport..i like lorri better...I like the respect but it makes me feel older..as long as kids are respectful when they talk to me and use their manners, I don't mind being called by my first name, in any case i usually prefer it....My kids use Mr. and Mrs. for people we don't know that well, but i introduce my close friends to them , but their first name...the kids get a sense in the reverse idea of who is close to us..but that is just us..anyone that wants their kids to use us as a Mr. and Mrs. i am fine with that too...i just feel more comfortable with the informal way

Liene said...

Wow what a thought provoking post! I'm pretty old fashion. Grew up in the day where you called someone Mr & Mrs. Now that I am a military wife it is very common in the military world to call someone Miss Beth & Mr Mark. But that's only for those we know who are also military and even then, I'm not super comfortable with it. We make our son call everyone else Mr & Mrs. And no one who is not blood related is called Aunt or Uncle. It's just a no-no in the way we were raised. But I agree with some of the other comments in the sense that I am an adult and shouldn't be addressed by a child like I was a peer.